Unsustainable Path

Posted by Paul Vigna on November 20, 2009
Economy, Markets, Treasury Department, taxes
To infinity and beyond!

To infinity and beyond!

The United States of America is $12 trillion in debt.

It’s actually worse than that, but let’s start there. The “National Debt Clock” above the IRS office on 45th Street in midtown Manhattan tripped the $12 trillion level this week. (It actually crossed the mark on Monday, according to the Treasury Department’s website, but I noticed it this morning.)

And that is just the actual, concrete debt. There are tens of trillions more in so-called unfunded liabilities — promises made to current and future recipients of Social Security and Medicare — that push the national debt up to somewhere in the $50-$60 trillion range.

How do you grasp a problem that big? It’s hard. The problem (with grasping it)  isn’t that the problem (the debt) isn’t real, it is painfully real, the problem is that it isn’t a problem the way, say, the collapse of Lehman Brothers was a problem. That is to say, in America today, if it doesn’t explode, people don’t see the problem.

But make no mistake, friends, this is a problem that will grind the economy into dust, in a gradual, evolutionary kind of way. It’ll take years, maybe decades, a slow, grueling, almost invisible force. But if we do not address this, now, we, and our children, will wake up one day in a far less prosperous place.

We are going down, as I first saw Harvard’s Greg Mankiw call it, an unsustainable path. And we are barreling down it.

I’ve gotten an advance copy of David Walker’s “Comeback America,” (due out in January.) Walker is a former comptroller general of the U.S., and a fierce critic of the government’s handling of the public purse. He’s currently heading up the Peter Peterson Foundation (they made the movie “IOUSA.”) I’m only a few chapters into the book, but it makes for sober reading. This is how he opens the preface:

America is a great country — the greatest, as far as Americans are concerned. But its future is threatened, and we same Americans are the threat. I am talking about our nation’s deteriorating financial condition, perpetrated by all of us, and especially by the government that represents us.

He points out the obvious: the nation is in a $56 trillion hole (as of September 2008; as he points out, it’s a moving number and is likely north of $60 trillion today.) Walker served in four administrations, and takes a nonpartisan line in assessing the nation’s health, which is good, because both Democrats and Republicans deserve heaps of blame (as well as, ahem, we the people.)

How big is the problem? Look at this year’s deficit. “The $1.6 trillion deficit translates to $3 million of debt accumulated each minute, $180 million an hour and $4.3 billion a day. Think Warren Buffett is rich? His net worth is only about 2.3% of that $1.6 trillion.” (At the time he was writing, I suppose, the deficit was projected at $1.6 trillion; it’s come in closer to $1.4 trillion.)

These are forces that will ruin the country, there are no two ways around it. We do not have a work force growing fast enough that we can earn our way out of it, unless we raise taxes to levels nobody has ever see before. You want to see the Tea Party crowd go really nuts?

The way we are going now, which is basically to pretend it isn’t happening, this is a debilitating burden we are going to hand to our children. “They are my grandchildren, and I am embarrassed by the mess we are passing on to them,” Walker writes. I have a son, and I feel the same way.

Walker promises concrete solutions to the problem, and as I go through the book I’ll try and share them. But this is a book (and I’m not doing Random House’s job for them, either; they didn’t even send me the advance copy, they sent it somebody else here, who left in an an “unread books’ bin) that should be must reading for every thinking American.

This is a real problem. It must be treated as such.

(Photo: Paul Vigna)

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13 Comments to Unsustainable Path

lucky
November 20, 2009

Thanks for the great post, please continue to update us as you read.

First of all, let’s not forget who put us here. This MUST be understood by the nation as the first step to getting us out of it. It started with one of the worse presidents ever (Reagan), and continued as a 30-year Republican tax-cut and spend policy, slowed only during the Clinton years. In that entire time (except for Clinton), Republicans controlled the white house (budget veto power). Republicans controlled the legislature most of the time, and in general, the nation took a sharp turn to the right politically, and we’re still there - even though it’s just starting to turn now. For example, imo, Eisenhower was to the left of Clinton, and Eisenhower was a republican.

Debt:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:USDebt.png

Control of congress:
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

As bad as things are, I actually believe we still need to spend even more to help the jobs situation. IMO, it’s all about jobs - we should have done this at the start - not ‘make-work’, but real work, like the WPA, which gave us some of the best civil engineering this nation has seen - even today. For example, a national program for green energy, retrofitting homes with solar, for example. See similar comments by Krugman:
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/invisible-bond-vigilantes/
and
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/interest-rates-the-phantom-menace/#more-5561

IMO, the first step to cutting government spending is to stop both occupations now, and cut the military by 2/3 at least and close most of the overseas bases. We don’t need, want, and cannot afford Jim Baker’s strategy of ‘world-wide force projection’ or whatever the hell he calls it.

Strider
November 20, 2009

Lucky, they should have called you Stupid.

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John
November 23, 2009

The economy hasn’t been increasingly unstable since LBJ’s (and the congress from that time) guns and butter policy. Later governments have built upon that. Reagan and the congress of the time) just increased the rate at which it was happening, as have the ones after.

Unless people can first stop making this into a republican/democrat thing, nothing will be done about it.

Frankly, given the current environment of paranoia and expectations of entitlement I’m not optimistic.

napster
November 23, 2009

Strider, you have every right to disagree with the factually based historical analysis of the situation over the last 40 years. However, what gives you the right to call someone stupid without even bothering to present a different factually based opinion?

Personally, I think Clinton was living on borrowed time, but at least his administration did make a lot of bureaucratic cost saving by actually streamlining different branches of the lower bureaucracy. The Republicans over the last 40 years a bunch of irresponsible hypocrites.

And you, Mr. Strider need to get over yourself, and stop calling people names without bringing something valuable to the conversation.

Otherwise, just shut up. Mature adults want to understand and solve real problems, not call names and act like grown ups in denial.

That type of behavior is stupid.

middyfeek
November 24, 2009

@Lucky - Sir, you cannot arrogate to yourself the right to determine when this started and who is responsible. Some people think it goes all the way back to FDR.

I’m so sick of people trying to inject partisan politics into the situation. There’s plenty of blame for both sides.

The average American is caught between these two collections of arrogant, ignorant, self-seeking, self-serving parasites. Favoring one side over the other only shows that you don’t have a clue.

scothammer
November 24, 2009

Come on guys. It started with Lyndon Johnson, when he “Unified” the budget i.e. putting social security and medicare in the with general revenues. We have never looked at how really bad we have been outspending our revenues, because it has been masked by the surplus in social security and medicare. But as those two programs go into deficit, the crap is really going to hit the fan. All of the Presidents since Johnson have all avoided the problem, as has Congress. Most of them are all a bunch of self-serving idiots. Ron Paul has told us the problem, but no one listens. We deserve what we get, because we are a country of arrogant people who think we are rich - NOT! We are bankrupt already. Think of $60 trillion of debt. That is $200,000 in debt for every man woman and child in this country. Can you pay your share?

Rodger Malcolm Mitchell
November 24, 2009

It would be refreshing if at long last, one of the pundits claiming the debt is “unsustainable” would provide evidence of that, rather than repeating again and again how big it is.

“Big” does not = unsustainable. Neither does “large,” “huge” or “unprecedented.” Neither does calling the debt a “ticking time bomb” (a favorite of the debt pundits since at least 1982).

Here are some quotes from: http://rodgermmitchell.wordpress.com/2009/11/24/federal-debt-a-ticking-time-bomb/

Bill Neikirk, Jan 8, 1982: “If Reagan’s program fails, it will (cause) huge budget deficits to contend with for the foreseeable future. These deficits will tend to keep interest rates high and keep the economy in the doldrums.” [Massive GDP growth followed]

David Ibata, Oct 26, 1983: “Warning that the nation’s economic recovery could collapse within a year, home-building officials Tuesday called for the creation of a bipartisan commission to propose ways to trim the $200 billion federal deficit. The deficit is a ‘ticking time bomb‘ that probably will explode in the third quarter of 1984,’ said Fred Napolitano, former president of the National Association of Home Builders.

James Worsham, Jan 6, 1984: “Congress (is) giving the Pentagon only $264 billion of the $280 billion it sought for fiscal 1984 . . . The 1984 defense budget . . . contains and economic time bomb.

James Warren, Feb 21, 1984: “Labor chief hits deficits as ‘time bombs.’. . . ‘We now hear from them (the Reagan administration) that deficits don’t cause high interest rates and inflation,’ AFL-CIO President Lane Kirkland said. ‘If that’s the case, we’ve suddenly discovered the horn of plenty and should stop worrying and keep borrowing and spending.. But I don’t believe it. It’s a time bomb ticking away.”

That “time bomb” has been on the verge of explosion at least since 1982. Isn’t it time someone admits federal deficits, even large federal deficits, have not caused inflation or high interest rates, and the debt is not a ticking time bomb? It’s time to move away from faith and start to rely on facts. The faith healers are killing our economy.

Does anyone have any facts to substantiate the belief the federal debt is too high? Anyone?

Rodger Malcolm Mitchell

Paul Vigna
November 24, 2009

Some good stuff, Rodger, thanks. I’ll try to address it in another post.

Peter Sweet
November 25, 2009

Who cares who started it? Let’s quit the blame game and pressure our currently elected to understand and face the problem.

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